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	<title>Comments on: To not yum or to not apt-get?</title>
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		<title>By: Guide to MySQL installation files &#124; code.openark.org</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-22011</link>
		<dc:creator>Guide to MySQL installation files &#124; code.openark.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To not yum or to not apt-get? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Poll: what (minor) versions of MySQL should be supported by an open source MySQL related project? &#124; code.openark.org</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-11920</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll: what (minor) versions of MySQL should be supported by an open source MySQL related project? &#124; code.openark.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How about supporting 5.0.22 (released almost 4 years ago, with almost 70 revisions since)? Would you expect an open source project to support this MySQL version because, say, this is the default version in your yum repository? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How about supporting 5.0.22 (released almost 4 years ago, with almost 70 revisions since)? Would you expect an open source project to support this MySQL version because, say, this is the default version in your yum repository? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shlomi</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10860</link>
		<dc:creator>shlomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Singer,

I think I have it explained in the post.

Because:
1. They do not allow for multiple installations

2. yum will still remove such installations if it thinks it should

3. frankly, I don&#039;t like it where RPMs have different conventions on different distros; not to mention different than deb packages.

/var/lib/mysql?
/var/run/mysql?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Singer,</p>
<p>I think I have it explained in the post.</p>
<p>Because:<br />
1. They do not allow for multiple installations</p>
<p>2. yum will still remove such installations if it thinks it should</p>
<p>3. frankly, I don't like it where RPMs have different conventions on different distros; not to mention different than deb packages.</p>
<p>/var/lib/mysql?<br />
/var/run/mysql?</p>
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		<title>By: Singer Wang</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10857</link>
		<dc:creator>Singer Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why &quot;I consider a binary tarball to be the best MySQL installation format&quot;.. If you on RHEL, why not get the MySQL RHEL RPMs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why "I consider a binary tarball to be the best MySQL installation format".. If you on RHEL, why not get the MySQL RHEL RPMs?</p>
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		<title>By: Log Buffer #179: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs &#124; The Pythian Blog</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10785</link>
		<dc:creator>Log Buffer #179: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs &#124; The Pythian Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Data Charmer, reports on the Linux MySQL distros meeting in Brussels. He says, &#8220;When I saw Shlomi&#8217;s post on why not to use apt-get or yum for MySQL, I thought immediately that his conclusions are quite reasonable. What you get from the Linux [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Data Charmer, reports on the Linux MySQL distros meeting in Brussels. He says, &#8220;When I saw Shlomi&#8217;s post on why not to use apt-get or yum for MySQL, I thought immediately that his conclusions are quite reasonable. What you get from the Linux [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shlomi</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>shlomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

apt-mark will let you mark packages as having been *automatically* installed, which means when you remove other packages that depend on said packages, they are automatically removed (as opposed to &quot;I&#039;ve manually installed thi package so do not remove it when you see no one using it&quot;).

I&#039;m not aware of marking non-existent packages as installed. But I&#039;m not an expert on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>apt-mark will let you mark packages as having been *automatically* installed, which means when you remove other packages that depend on said packages, they are automatically removed (as opposed to "I've manually installed thi package so do not remove it when you see no one using it").</p>
<p>I'm not aware of marking non-existent packages as installed. But I'm not an expert on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Jones</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10752</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could be wrong about this, but I thought somewhere I read that it&#039;s possible with apt-get to mark packages as installed, without them actually being installed, so the other packages which depend on them could be installed.

I could be wrong about this though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could be wrong about this, but I thought somewhere I read that it's possible with apt-get to mark packages as installed, without them actually being installed, so the other packages which depend on them could be installed.</p>
<p>I could be wrong about this though.</p>
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		<title>By: shlomi</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10735</link>
		<dc:creator>shlomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arjen,

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arjen,</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Arjen Lentz</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10718</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjen Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is not the fact that it&#039;s repos, but the &quot;outdatedness&quot; of the mysql versions in distros.

Try the MySQL 5.0 and MariaDB 5.1 repos at http://ourdelta.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is not the fact that it's repos, but the "outdatedness" of the mysql versions in distros.</p>
<p>Try the MySQL 5.0 and MariaDB 5.1 repos at <a href="http://ourdelta.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ourdelta.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Linux MySQL distros meeting in Brussels &#171; JZ Talk Blogger</title>
		<link>http://code.openark.org/blog/mysql/to-not-yum-or-to-not-apt-get/comment-page-1#comment-10695</link>
		<dc:creator>Linux MySQL distros meeting in Brussels &#171; JZ Talk Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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