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# SQL trick: overcoming GROUP_CONCAT limitation in special cases

MySQL SQL July 21, 2010July 21, 2010

In Verifying GROUP_CONCAT limit without using variables, I have presented a test to verify if group_concat_max_len is sufficient for known limitations. I will follow the path where I assume I cannot control group_concat_max_len, not even in session scope, and show an SQL solution, dirty as it is, to overcome the GROUP_CONCAT limitation, under certain conditions.

Sheeri rightfully asks why I wouldn’t just set group_concat_max_len in session scope. The particular case I have is that I’m providing a VIEW definition. I’d like users to “install” that view, i.e. to CREATE it on their database. The VIEW does some logic, and uses GROUP_CONCAT to implement that logic.

Now, I have no control on the DBA or developer who created the view. The creation of the view has nothing to do with the group_concat_max_len setting on her database instance.

#### An example

OK, apologies aside. Using the sakila database, I execute:

>     mysql> SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(last_name) FROM actor \G
>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     GROUP_CONCAT(last_name): AKROYD,AKROYD,AKROYD,ALLEN,ALLEN,ALLEN,ASTAIRE,BACALL,BAILEY,BAILEY,BALE,BALL,BARRYMORE,BASINGER,BENING,BENING,BERGEN,BERGMAN,BERRY,BERRY,BERRY,BIRCH,BLOOM,BOLGER,BOLGER,BRIDGES,BRODY,BRODY,BULLOCK,CAGE,CAGE,CARREY,CHAPLIN,CHASE,CHASE,CLOSE,COSTNER,CRAWFORD,CRAWFORD,CRONYN,CRONYN,CROWE,CRUISE,CRUZ,DAMON,DAVIS,DAVIS,DAVIS,DAY-LEWIS,DEAN,DEAN,DEE,DEE,DEGENERES,DEGENERES,DEGENERES,DENCH,DENCH,DEPP,DEPP,DERN,DREYFUSS,DUKAKIS,DUKAKIS,DUNST,FAWCETT,FAWCETT,GABLE,GARLAND,GARLAND,GARLAND,GIBSON,GOLDBERG,GOODING,GOODING,GRANT,GUINESS,GUINESS,GUINESS,HACKMAN,HACKMAN,HARRIS,HARRIS,HARRIS,HAWKE,HESTON,HOFFMAN,HOFFMAN,HOFFMAN,HOPE,HOPKINS,HOPKINS,HOPKINS,HOPPER,HOPPER,HUDSON,HUNT,HURT,JACKMAN,JACKMAN,JOHANSSON,JOHANSSON,JOHANSSON,JOLIE,JOVOVICH,KEITEL,KEITEL,KEITEL,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,LEIGH,LOLLOBRIGIDA,MALDEN,MANSFIELD,MARX,MCCONAUGHEY,MCCONAUGHEY,MCDORMAND,MCKELLEN,MCKELLEN,MCQUEEN,MCQUEEN,MIRANDA,MONROE,MONROE,MOSTEL,MOSTEL,NEESON,NEESON,NICHOLSON,NOLTE,NOLTE,NOLTE,NOLTE,OLIVIER,OLIVIER,PALTROW,PALTROW,P
>     1 row in set, 1 warning (0.00 sec)

>     mysql> SHOW WARNINGS;
>     +---------+------+--------------------------------------+
>     | Level   | Code | Message                              |
>     +---------+------+--------------------------------------+
>     | Warning | 1260 | 1 line(s) were cut by GROUP_CONCAT() |
>     +---------+------+--------------------------------------+
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

So, my GROUP_CONCAT has been truncated. How much did I lose?

>     mysql> SELECT SUM(LENGTH(last_name) + 1) - 1 FROM actor;
>     +--------------------------------+
>     | SUM(LENGTH(last_name) + 1) - 1 |
>     +--------------------------------+
>     |                           1445 |
>     +--------------------------------+

(In the above query I counted the separating commas; they are part of the GROUP_CONCAT limit).

#### The special case at hand

The proposed SQL trick assumes the following:

- The length of the GROUP_CONCAT result is known to be under a certain value.
- A GROUP_CONCAT of any set of n rows is known to be shorter than (or equal to) 1024 characters.

In our above example, I happen to know that the length of the GROUP_CONCAT result is below 2048. I also happen to know that any 100 rows will yield in a GROUP_CONCAT length of less than 1024.

How can I know this? Well, the length of my VARCHAR, or the fact I’m handling INT values can give me upper bounds on total lengths.

#### Steps towards the solution

Returning to our example, my intention becomes clearer: I want to work it out in two phases (later on I’ll show how this can be done in more phases). Any of the following is good:

>     mysql> SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(last_name) FROM actor WHERE actor_id BETWEEN 1 and 100 \G
>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     GROUP_CONCAT(last_name): GUINESS,WAHLBERG,CHASE,DAVIS,LOLLOBRIGIDA,NICHOLSON,MOSTEL,JOHANSSON,SWANK,GABLE,CAGE,BERRY,WOOD,BERGEN,OLIVIER,COSTNER,VOIGHT,TORN,FAWCETT,TRACY,PALTROW,MARX,KILMER,STREEP,BLOOM,CRAWFORD,MCQUEEN,HOFFMAN,WAYNE,PECK,SOBIESKI,HACKMAN,PECK,OLIVIER,DEAN,DUKAKIS,BOLGER,MCKELLEN,BRODY,CAGE,DEGENERES,MIRANDA,JOVOVICH,STALLONE,KILMER,GOLDBERG,BARRYMORE,DAY-LEWIS,CRONYN,HOPKINS,PHOENIX,HUNT,TEMPLE,PINKETT,KILMER,HARRIS,CRUISE,AKROYD,TAUTOU,BERRY,NEESON,NEESON,WRAY,JOHANSSON,HUDSON,TANDY,BAILEY,WINSLET,PALTROW,MCCONAUGHEY,GRANT,WILLIAMS,PENN,KEITEL,POSEY,ASTAIRE,MCCONAUGHEY,SINATRA,HOFFMAN,CRUZ,DAMON,JOLIE,WILLIS,PITT,ZELLWEGER,CHAPLIN,PECK,PESCI,DENCH,GUINESS,BERRY,AKROYD,PRESLEY,TORN,WAHLBERG,WILLIS,HAWKE,BRIDGES,MOSTEL,DEPP
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

>     mysql> SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(last_name) FROM actor WHERE actor_id BETWEEN 101 and 200 \G
>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     GROUP_CONCAT(last_name): DAVIS,TORN,LEIGH,CRONYN,CROWE,DUNST,DEGENERES,NOLTE,DERN,DAVIS,ZELLWEGER,BACALL,HOPKINS,MCDORMAND,BALE,STREEP,TRACY,ALLEN,JACKMAN,MONROE,BERGMAN,NOLTE,DENCH,BENING,NOLTE,TOMEI,GARLAND,MCQUEEN,CRAWFORD,KEITEL,JACKMAN,HOPPER,PENN,HOPKINS,REYNOLDS,MANSFIELD,WILLIAMS,DEE,GOODING,HURT,HARRIS,RYDER,DEAN,WITHERSPOON,ALLEN,JOHANSSON,WINSLET,DEE,TEMPLE,NOLTE,HESTON,HARRIS,KILMER,GIBSON,TANDY,WOOD,MALDEN,BASINGER,BRODY,DEPP,HOPE,KILMER,WEST,WILLIS,GARLAND,DEGENERES,BULLOCK,WILSON,HOFFMAN,HOPPER,PFEIFFER,WILLIAMS,DREYFUSS,BENING,HACKMAN,CHASE,MCKELLEN,MONROE,GUINESS,SILVERSTONE,CARREY,AKROYD,CLOSE,GARLAND,BOLGER,ZELLWEGER,BALL,DUKAKIS,BIRCH,BAILEY,GOODING,SUVARI,TEMPLE,ALLEN,SILVERSTONE,WALKEN,WEST,KEITEL,FAWCETT,TEMPLE
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

It’s somewhat tempting to try the following trick based on IF, but see what happens:

>     mysql> SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, last_name, '')) FROM actor\G
>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     GROUP_CONCAT(IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, last_name, '')): AKROYD,AKROYD,,,,,ASTAIRE,,BAILEY,,,,BARRYMORE,,,,BERGEN,,BERRY,BERRY,BERRY,,BLOOM,BOLGER,,BRIDGES,BRODY,,,CAGE,CAGE,,CHAPLIN,CHASE,,,COSTNER,CRAWFORD,,CRONYN,,,CRUISE,CRUZ,DAMON,DAVIS,,,DAY-LEWIS,DEAN,,,,DEGENERES,,,DENCH,,DEPP,,,,DUKAKIS,,,FAWCETT,,GABLE,,,,,GOLDBERG,,,GRANT,GUINESS,GUINESS,,HACKMAN,,HARRIS,,,HAWKE,,HOFFMAN,HOFFMAN,,,HOPKINS,,,,,HUDSON,HUNT,,,,JOHANSSON,JOHANSSON,,JOLIE,JOVOVICH,KEITEL,,,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,,,,LOLLOBRIGIDA,,,MARX,MCCONAUGHEY,MCCONAUGHEY,,MCKELLEN,,MCQUEEN,,MIRANDA,,,MOSTEL,MOSTEL,NEESON,NEESON,NICHOLSON,,,,,OLIVIER,OLIVIER,PALTROW,PALTROW,PECK,PECK,PECK,PENN,,PESCI,,PHOENIX,PINKETT,PITT,POSEY,PRESLEY,,,,,SINATRA,SOBIESKI,STALLONE,STREEP,,,SWANK,TANDY,,TAUTOU,TEMPLE,,,,,TORN,TORN,,TRACY,,VOIGHT,WAHLBERG,WAHLBERG,,WAYNE,,,WILLIAMS,,,WILLIS,WILLIS,,,WINSLET,,,WOOD,,WRAY,ZELLWEGER,,
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

We’re getting there, though. We will mimic GROUP_CONCAT‘s separator by using CONCAT, and remove the default separator:

>     SELECT
>      GROUP_CONCAT(
>        IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, CONCAT(',', last_name), '')
>        SEPARATOR ''
>      ) AS result
>     FROM actor
>     \G
>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     result: ,AKROYD,AKROYD,ASTAIRE,BAILEY,BARRYMORE,BERGEN,BERRY,BERRY,BERRY,BLOOM,BOLGER,BRIDGES,BRODY,CAGE,CAGE,CHAPLIN,CHASE,COSTNER,CRAWFORD,CRONYN,CRUISE,CRUZ,DAMON,DAVIS,DAY-LEWIS,DEAN,DEGENERES,DENCH,DEPP,DUKAKIS,FAWCETT,GABLE,GOLDBERG,GRANT,GUINESS,GUINESS,HACKMAN,HARRIS,HAWKE,HOFFMAN,HOFFMAN,HOPKINS,HUDSON,HUNT,JOHANSSON,JOHANSSON,JOLIE,JOVOVICH,KEITEL,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,LOLLOBRIGIDA,MARX,MCCONAUGHEY,MCCONAUGHEY,MCKELLEN,MCQUEEN,MIRANDA,MOSTEL,MOSTEL,NEESON,NEESON,NICHOLSON,OLIVIER,OLIVIER,PALTROW,PALTROW,PECK,PECK,PECK,PENN,PESCI,PHOENIX,PINKETT,PITT,POSEY,PRESLEY,SINATRA,SOBIESKI,STALLONE,STREEP,SWANK,TANDY,TAUTOU,TEMPLE,TORN,TORN,TRACY,VOIGHT,WAHLBERG,WAHLBERG,WAYNE,WILLIAMS,WILLIS,WILLIS,WINSLET,WOOD,WRAY,ZELLWEGER
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

#### Solution

Let’s combine all we had so far to get the final result:

>     SELECT
>       SUBSTRING(
>         CONCAT(
>           GROUP_CONCAT(
>             IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, CONCAT(',', last_name), '')
>             SEPARATOR ''
>           ),
>           GROUP_CONCAT(
>             IF(actor_id BETWEEN 101 AND 200, CONCAT(',', last_name), '')
>             SEPARATOR ''
>           )
>         ),
>         2
>       ) AS result
>     FROM actor
>     \G

>     *************************** 1. row ***************************
>     result: AKROYD,AKROYD,ASTAIRE,BAILEY,BARRYMORE,BERGEN,BERRY,BERRY,BERRY,BLOOM,BOLGER,BRIDGES,BRODY,CAGE,CAGE,CHAPLIN,CHASE,COSTNER,CRAWFORD,CRONYN,CRUISE,CRUZ,DAMON,DAVIS,DAY-LEWIS,DEAN,DEGENERES,DENCH,DEPP,DUKAKIS,FAWCETT,GABLE,GOLDBERG,GRANT,GUINESS,GUINESS,HACKMAN,HARRIS,HAWKE,HOFFMAN,HOFFMAN,HOPKINS,HUDSON,HUNT,JOHANSSON,JOHANSSON,JOLIE,JOVOVICH,KEITEL,KILMER,KILMER,KILMER,LOLLOBRIGIDA,MARX,MCCONAUGHEY,MCCONAUGHEY,MCKELLEN,MCQUEEN,MIRANDA,MOSTEL,MOSTEL,NEESON,NEESON,NICHOLSON,OLIVIER,OLIVIER,PALTROW,PALTROW,PECK,PECK,PECK,PENN,PESCI,PHOENIX,PINKETT,PITT,POSEY,PRESLEY,SINATRA,SOBIESKI,STALLONE,STREEP,SWANK,TANDY,TAUTOU,TEMPLE,TORN,TORN,TRACY,VOIGHT,WAHLBERG,WAHLBERG,WAYNE,WILLIAMS,WILLIS,WILLIS,WINSLET,WOOD,WRAY,ZELLWEGER,AKROYD,ALLEN,ALLEN,ALLEN,BACALL,BAILEY,BALE,BALL,BASINGER,BENING,BENING,BERGMAN,BIRCH,BOLGER,BRODY,BULLOCK,CARREY,CHASE,CLOSE,CRAWFORD,CRONYN,CROWE,DAVIS,DAVIS,DEAN,DEE,DEE,DEGENERES,DEGENERES,DENCH,DEPP,DERN,DREYFUSS,DUKAKIS,DUNST,FAWCETT,GARLAND,GARLAND,GARLAND,GIBSON,GOODING,GOODING,GUINESS,HACKMAN,HARRIS,HARRIS,HESTON,HOFFMAN,HOPE,HOPKINS,HOPKINS,HOPPER,HOPPER,HURT,JACKMAN,JACKMAN,JOHANSSON,KEITEL,KEITEL,KILMER,KILMER,LEIGH,MALDEN,MANSFIELD,MCDORMAND,MCKELLEN,MCQUEEN,MONROE,MONROE,NOLTE,NOLTE,NOLTE,NOLTE,PENN,PFEIFFER,REYNOLDS,RYDER,SILVERSTONE,SILVERSTONE,STREEP,SUVARI,TANDY,TEMPLE,TEMPLE,TEMPLE,TOMEI,TORN,TRACY,WALKEN,WEST,WEST,WILLIAMS,WILLIAMS,WILLIS,WILSON,WINSLET,WITHERSPOON,WOOD,ZELLWEGER,ZELLWEGER
>     1 row in set (0.00 sec)

#### More than 2048 characters?

As far as the upper limit is known, we can work this trick in the same manner. Assume the length is expected to be 3000 characters. We can then CONCAT three, or four, or five GROUP_CONCAT results, each of fewer number of rows as required. Just copy+paste the above GROUP_CONCAT(…) clause a couple more times, and edit the actor_id BETWEEN n AND m clauses.

Moreover, further using MIN(actor_id), MAX(actor_id) can minimize dependencies on specific values.

Dirty? ugly? Not arguing. But it’s working! In some ways it is not such a dirty solution: I’m avoiding using stored routines (easily setting the group_concat_max_len session variable from within a stored function’s body, see Justin’s suggestion), so I’m only relying on SQL, not on “external” technology, if I may call it that way.

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strcmp

You can use GROUP_CONCAT(IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, last_name, NULL)) instead of GROUP_CONCAT(IF(actor_id BETWEEN 1 AND 100, last_name, ”)) to get rid of the extra separators. ” is a normal value that will just be concatenated, NULL will be skipped.

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shlomi

@strcmp: wow! Thanks for this

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shlomi

@strcmp: for completeness, the trick of CONCAT still makes it more robust, since otherwise you must add you own “,” separators between the GROUP_CONCAT parts; should any of them be empty, the manually added separators be invalid.

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marcin

before executing query try execute SET SESSION group_concat_max_len = 20000

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shlomi

@marcin,
I wrote: “…I will follow the path where I assume I cannot control group_concat_max_len, not even in session scope…”

Yes, if you have control, just change group_concat_max_len. This is not always the case. For example, I provide a schema with views which I expect you to install on your server. I cannot change your session variable since I am not the one invoking queries; it is YOU who is invoking queries using my own views. There’s a hack around this, as well, and an ugly one as well.

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marcin

you’re right

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